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netdude 02-23-2010 02:29 PM

Colorado State University Bans Concealed Carry
 
After having a policy that allowed concealed carry on campus since concealed carry has been allowed in the State of Colorado the Board of Governors of the CSU System decided it was in the best interest of the System to ban concealed carry. They gave no legitimate reasons as to why it was being done other than it will help reduce guns on campus and that it is the national trend. I fail to see how these are "good reaons".

Since concealed carry has been allowed on campus there have been 0, ZERO, incidents related to someone carrying a concealed weapon.

The county sheriff that the University resides in is even against the ban and has publically said his department will not enforce it.

They seem to fail to understand that someone intent on killing people will not follow the rules that they have laid out.

More information on this @: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14454241

KantianPerspective 02-23-2010 02:46 PM

Re: Colorado State University Bans Concealed Carry
 
Sounds like a case of Social Proof to me.

Quote:

Social proof, also known as informational social influence, is a psychological phenomenon that occurs in ambiguous social situations when people are unable to determine the appropriate mode of behavior. Making the assumption that surrounding people possess more knowledge about the situation, they will deem the behavior of others as appropriate or better informed. Since observation of others usually provides only inconclusive information about what behavior is most profitable, the term 'informational social influence' is superior. Social influence in general can lead to conformity of large groups of individuals in either correct or mistaken choices, a phenomenon sometimes referred to as herd behavior. Although informational social influence at least in part reflects a rational motive to take into account the information of others, formal analysis shows that it can cause people to converge too quickly upon a single choice, so that decisions of even large groups of individuals may reflect very little information (see information cascades).

wallew 02-23-2010 02:52 PM

Re: Colorado State University Bans Concealed Carry
 
It should be noted in the previoius article, the county Sheriff said he WOULD NOT enforce the CSU CCW ban. And you would have thought that after they tried this the LAST TIME, the Colorado State legislature stood UP to CSU and told them that IF they passed the ban the LAST TIME (Dec 09), they would over ride it with STATE LAWS.

GOP lawmaker plans bill to undo CSU concealed-weapons ban

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13964832#ixzz0gOFgEQ6H

A state Senate Republican leader said there won't be any broad-based retribution against Colorado State University just because the school's administrators seem ready to ban concealed weapons on campus.

But there are other ways Sen. Greg Brophy of Wray will show his displeasure with the gun decision.

Brophy � assistant minority leader � says he is working on a bill that would essentially nullify the proposed ban at CSU. Also, any CSU Board of Governors up for reappointment next year will not be getting his vote.

"I will never reconfirm any of those members," Brophy said. "That's the proper way to respond when an elected or appointed official does something you don't approve."

The nine-member board � two of whom are up for confirmation for another four-year term in 2010 � last week voted unanimously for a policy to ban concealed weapons on the CSU campuses at Fort Collins and Pueblo.

Brophy said his bill is aimed at clearing up language in the state concealed-weapons law that would allow weapons to be carried by permit holders at CSU. He said he isn't aware of any attempt being launched to get back at CSU in next year's legislative session for its gun stance.

"I wouldn't want to punish all of the students at CSU for the actions of the Board of Governors," said Brophy. "There is a bigger picture here."

CSU is one of a few public colleges and universities in the country without a schoolwide ban on concealed weapons. Currently, it operates under a state law that permits people with concealed-weapons permits to carry a handgun on most areas of the campus. They are banned only in residence halls.

Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_13964832#ixzz0gOFZEioh

Written by the same guy who wrote the last article, published in the same paper, the Denver Post.

Hivemindgammahydra7 03-01-2010 03:27 AM

Re: Colorado State University Bans Concealed Carry
 
F 'em. Carry anyway.

They can punish you/expel you after you survive the random on-campus shooting in which everyone BUT you died.
Should make for a good story in the papers, too.

SilverCat 03-01-2010 10:00 AM

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The only people that don't care about these stupid bans are the shooters. Hell, it makes their job that much easier.

Tn...Andy 03-01-2010 04:27 PM

Re: Colorado State University Bans Concealed Carry
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hivemindgammahydra7 (Post 2204479)
F 'em. Carry anyway.

They can punish you/expel you after you survive the random on-campus shooting in which everyone BUT you died.
Should make for a good story in the papers, too.


Amen brother......my policy exactly.

I took a class over at local university last summer for solar certification, and despite the signs all over the place, my Glock 19 was in handy reach in a flap in my briefcase.

madfranks 03-06-2010 02:59 PM

Re: Colorado State University Bans Concealed Carry
 
Sheriff says he'll undermine gun ban

http://www.gazette.com/opinion/state-94668-gun-ban.html

To quote the sheriff, “They say it’s better to be judged by 12 than carried by six".

Look at the poll - 97% say students should ignore the ban, wow!


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